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Old Sat 21-Oct-06, 07:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Connexions and Ian Clark

Please be aware that Ian Clark, who seems to be the recruiting agent in Japan for this Chinese organization, impersonates other officers of the company.

If you are involved in e-mail correspondence with Connexions there is no certainty that you are actually corresponding with a real person, or pseudonym of Clark.

I do not know whether Connexions is aware that Clark is doing this. Nor can I claim that Connexions is not a reputable company. I really don't know.

But, Clark undeniably pretends to be a person called Jane Fang in China. Just read the thread about The New Village in Kobe in this forum and you will see what I'm talking about. If there really is a Jane Fang, I doubt she is aware that Clark is speaking for her. If she is aware of it, then I would recommend caution when dealing with Connexions at all.

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Old Sat 21-Oct-06, 07:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ouch!

By the way, links to this thread and the other thread are being forwarded to Connexions. I wonder whether Clark will continue to be associated with Connexions when they find out what a bad boy he's been!

Naughty! Naughty!

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Old Sat 21-Oct-06, 11:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Connexions

Why would anyone, including Connexions care to take your word for this? It's just as likely that Mr Clark is a perfectly reputable individual who allowed 'Jane' Fang to use his AACircle login/password for her own purposes and in good faith. If this is so then the ban is simply an auto-mechanism and not some sort of indictment of either party.

I would also observe that a ban given in such circumstances or indeed in any other doesn't mean that anything so posted is untrue - it just seems to have breached AACircle regs.

Anyway, I think most if not all of what is posted on forums is simply opinion and of no real life interest - including the remarks made about New Village. More power to all of you and I hope that you and Mr Clark can sit down and have a beer at the end of it all. Online fencing is OK, but lets stick to the rules.
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Old Sun 22-Oct-06, 05:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Carel,

Clark has been impersonating other people on-line. It's pathetic.

He's a pscho and deserved to be banned, though I'm sure he will pop up again under another pseudonym like...hmmmmmmm...let me see....oh, I know......Carel!

Nice touch pretending to be posting from Scotland, instead on China this time.

Good God man, give it up.
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Old Sun 22-Oct-06, 06:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Seems that it's the noble Brian Miller vs The World at present. I would approach him with caution or he may just attack you as the amazing Mr Clark.

I think I am rapidly approaching sympathy point for Mr Miller. In fact I am loathe to post in this thread at the risk of provoking yet another unusual outburst.

After reading the Connexions posts (rule breakers or not - and I happen to think not), the conduct of New Village seems highly dubious. Indeed, Mr Miller's emails make me feel a little ill.

However I would say this before depart - I doubt a breach of forum rules took place for the following reasons:

1. Connexions is without doubt a registered company in China called Shanghai Consulting Co. - this is completely verifiable.
2. As such it will have more than one member of staff in more than one location
3. Any member of staff who works for Connexions may of course claim the Connexions company name as their own when writing on company business
4. Therefore, it doesn't matter whether Jane Fang or anyone else posts as Connexions as long as they are working with Connexions in some capacity and the other members of the company agree.

So, that's that - I hope that Connexions may continue to use AACircle as a legitimate and probably reputable company - they certainly seem to care about standards.
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Old Sun 22-Oct-06, 07:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Utik,

Connexions is a company.
Clark used to work for them.
He apparently still does recruit teachers for connexions here in Japan.

Read the posts carefully. Ian Clark actually says he is Jane Fang, a Chinese Woman who probably does work for Connexions, but is unaware that Clark is using her name to post. The Administrator of this forum checked out the source of the alleged post from Miss Fang and found them to come from Japan. Clark is is pretending to be another person. He's nuts.

I'm sorry if you find this thread distasteful. I do too. I'm just trying to defend myself.

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Old Sun 22-Oct-06, 09:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Connexions - an Update

Dear Brian Miller

My name is Robert, and I work as a part-time administrator with Connexions. Most of my work is done online - so I do not need to be in China permanently.

The moderator at AACircle did not say the posts came from inside Japan - he actually said that he could not be sure. He has therefore requested evidence from Jane Fang in Shanghai who is happy to supply this early next week.

Let us clear this up - we are a registered company and we have employees around the world who take time to help us. We appreciate this and fully support them in using the Connexions name to bring unethical and/or unlawful practices to the publics attention. That is all Mr Clark has done, he has done it with our full consent. The evidence that Mr Clark has provided was written by your own hand and in keeping with the behaviour reported in these emails you have continued to disgrace yourself and others in this forum.

We disagree with the ban on the same grounds as a recent poster (Utik) in this thread has done i.e. it is an internal matter and not for AACircle to decide who performs what functions inside our company.

Jane Fang has also asked me to post this, an email from you to her in which you pretend to be a Trent Thompson a job seeker living in Nishinomiya.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brian Miller <ttkansai@hotmail.com>
Date: 2006-10-21 下午5:29
Subject: Ian Clark
To: zhlfjane@gmail.com

Hello Miss Fang,

Is Ian Clark your Japanese recruiting officer?
I'm interested in your job opportunities.

Trent Thompson
Nishinomiya, Japan

Mr Miller - in my years of experience as a school and agency administrator I have not met a more dubious example of a school owner.

Robert Arando
Connexions (Shanghai)
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Old Sun 22-Oct-06, 09:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Look at the flag next to the name. It is the flag of China (or Scotland.)
One of the posts was signed, Jane Fane. She's supposed to be in Shanghai.
Yet, the posts originated in Japan. The Administrator can see where the posts come from, regardless of which country a person selects when registering. They are all from Ian Clark (aka Urik, Carel, RobAra87 or whatever name Clark chooses to call himself, or whatever country he chooses to claim to hail from.) It's alright if someone claims to work with connexions. But, it's not alright to claim to be a Chinese woman, when you are in fact an overweight man from Manchester.
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Old Sun 22-Oct-06, 09:54 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Just a quick follow up. This is the message I am referring to. October 21 at 6:14 p.m.

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My name is Jane Fang, the person you seem to think you should contact regarding this matter. I have written all the emails regarding your school based on the available evidence. Please feel free to contact me as you suggest (address provided) or at eslconnexions@gmail.com.

We have already said that we have recieved complaints from previous program participants regarding your school, of which the person you name is one. We have also said that we do have a close working relationship with a wide number of former participants. We asked Mr Clark to assist us - and we admire his work. He is simply doing his job in bringing you to our attention - and we do not provide him any special favor in this regard because we should bring these matters to the public forum. We have checked into his side of the story thoroughly and believe that he states the truth regarding your school and your subsequent actions - indeed it is you that wrote the emails so there's a sense in which you are either calling yourself a liar or insensible to reality when you protest. As for a libel suit - for something to be libellous it needs to be untrue.

We are not sure what you are attempting to suggest- surely you cannot be surprised that he complained about you? You have clearly behaved unlawfully a number of times and certainly continue to do so by naming him in a public forum. Naturally you are entitled to defend yourself, and ultimately it is for the public to decide if you are honorable or not.

Perhaps you continue to spam this thread because you realise that you have no legal defences in these matters and this is your vent?

Jane Fang
The Connexions Program
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See the signature? The Adminstrator confirmed that this message originated in Japan. You can't say that Jane Fang authorized anyone to speak for her. That's nonsense. What's wrong with her? Can't she speak for herself? It's Clark! And all the wishing and denying in the world can't undo what's been done. Everyone must now assume that all the newbie posts to the contrary are just reincarnations Clark has dreamed up to try and extricate himself from the mess he's got himself into.
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Old Mon 23-Oct-06, 09:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Hi

Jane Fang's english typing skill is certainly excellent.

Can u tell us in detail your story? It will add to your credibility as well.

Best of luck with the true scammers out there.

or should I say, "best of balanced sources of information".


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