Getting a job without a degree - Page 3 - ESL Teaching

skydolphin · Mon 01-Jan-07, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikepass

The Korean example again. For the E2 visa you need to send your original degree and sealed transcripts. To make things things more difficult, and please don't quote me on this, I believe that a new law has been passed that states that your degree must come from a University from your country of citizenship. If this is true an Australian with a Harvard or Cambridge degree could not get a job in Korea. As long as the University of Phoenix is a registered University, then an American could get a job. That's bureaucracy for you.

WHEW!!!! thats going to disqualify ANOTHER bunch of English teachers

Thats going disqualify people who made an extra effort to travel and study at a foreign university

.....there should be a global teachers strike:

....I'am ready to hit the bottle!

Mikepass · Mon 01-Jan-07, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by skydolphin

.....there should be a global teachers strike:

....I'am ready to hit the bottle!

Good luck with your strike and a drink for me while your at it

skydolphin · Tue 02-Jan-07, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikepass

Good luck with your strike and a drink for me while your at it

High School dropouts might be the perfect fit for this vocation

LeslieW · Sun 25-Feb-07, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brabdock

Hey guys, I want to teach english in Asia (Taiwan, Thailand, China, Japan). I've been to university for about three years, but didn't get a degree. I have a TESOL cert.

Question is: Is it still possible to get a job without a degree?

Thanks in advance.....Brabdock

NO

They are cracking down and if you dont have a 4 year degree, you wont be able to work there. It use to be an open door but now its closed. Thailand for example checks if degrees are fakes or not, they put all degrees under a microscope, gone are the days that fake gets one a working visa. If you had the 4 year degree along with the Tesol you are more valuable then without the Tesol.

Too many problems have forced the crackdown and a lot of good teachers without that degree are now out of work. S. Koreans discovered a site from 2 men offering ESL lessons in exchange for sex. That led to riots in Seoul, good teachers with no degrees loosing their jobs and forced to leave the country ASAP. Thailand closed the door on false papers, others followed suit.

My best advice is to go back to school and complete the 4th year, get that degree and then write your own ticket to a terrific teaching career anywhere in the world.

skydolphin · Wed 10-Oct-07, 10:13 PM

Would a Bachelor degree pretty well open doors in the future or will there be a time when a Masters will be necessary. There
Is a limit on what schooling can do without actual experience.

BBrian · Wed 10-Oct-07, 10:32 PM

Yeh, sure you can get a job without a degree, but you are limiting yourself to the bottom of the barrel jobs. Obviously the more qualifications you have under your belt, the easier it is for you to quash the competition and grab the high hanging fruit.

exported_kiwi · Thu 11-Oct-07, 08:46 AM

skydolphin, yes, a bachelors is quite adequate now, in China....but from what I hear, there's going to be a "tightening" of the screws here too sometimes in the future, regarding fake degrees and also whether or not, China actually needs foreign teachers at all! I get this from a friend whose father is in the politburo. Hope it doesn't happen or there will many dedicated and good teachers expelled because of a piece of paper, some friends among them....I've quietly put a word in my friends ear so she can pass it to her Father, in the hopes that it'll alleviate some of the anxieties here....will keep you all informed.
Take care y'all!

HCM3 · Sat 13-Oct-07, 04:15 PM

Haven't read through all the replies you've got but I work in Indonesia without a degree.

kitizz · Sat 13-Oct-07, 06:11 PM

thank you. This is very helpful. I think this will come in handy eventually.
Thanx

dogpound · Thu 25-Oct-07, 12:31 AM

Just one small point about visa requirements. Before you mail your degree, make a photocopy, take the original, the photocopy, your transcripts and ID to your local Korean embassy, and they will put an official stamp on the photocopy for about US $2.50. Mail the certified photocopy to the school, NOT your original. They can keep that but you still have your original. It's a lot less hassle than getting a dupicate copy from your university. I actually requested my last school to return my certified phohtocopy so I could use it for the next job.

Wed 10-Oct-07, 10:13 PM	#25 (permalink)
skydolphin Wannabe Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Occupation: mechanic Location: Posts: 39	Re: Getting a job without a degree Would a Bachelor degree pretty well open doors in the future or will there be a time when a Masters will be necessary. There Is a limit on what schooling can do without actual experience.

Wed 10-Oct-07, 10:32 PM	#26 (permalink)
BBrian Wannabe Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Occupation: Sales Location: Posts: 45	Re: Getting a job without a degree Yeh, sure you can get a job without a degree, but you are limiting yourself to the bottom of the barrel jobs. Obviously the more qualifications you have under your belt, the easier it is for you to quash the competition and grab the high hanging fruit.

Thu 11-Oct-07, 08:46 AM	#27 (permalink)
exported_kiwi Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Nationality: Kiwi who's been exported! Occupation: Beer taster, hehehehehe! Location: Posts: 238	Re: Getting a job without a degree skydolphin, yes, a bachelors is quite adequate now, in China....but from what I hear, there's going to be a "tightening" of the screws here too sometimes in the future, regarding fake degrees and also whether or not, China actually needs foreign teachers at all! I get this from a friend whose father is in the politburo. Hope it doesn't happen or there will many dedicated and good teachers expelled because of a piece of paper, some friends among them....I've quietly put a word in my friends ear so she can pass it to her Father, in the hopes that it'll alleviate some of the anxieties here....will keep you all informed. Take care y'all! __________________ Think only of those things that can be done!

Sat 13-Oct-07, 04:15 PM	#28 (permalink)
HCM3 ESL Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Occupation: English Teacher Location: Posts: 2	Re: Getting a job without a degree Haven't read through all the replies you've got but I work in Indonesia without a degree.

Sat 13-Oct-07, 06:11 PM	#29 (permalink)
kitizz ESL Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Occupation: School Location: Posts: 1	Re: Getting a job without a degree thank you. This is very helpful. I think this will come in handy eventually. Thanx

Thu 25-Oct-07, 12:31 AM	#30 (permalink)
dogpound ESL Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Occupation: English Teacher Location: Posts: 4	Re: Getting a job without a degree Just one small point about visa requirements. Before you mail your degree, make a photocopy, take the original, the photocopy, your transcripts and ID to your local Korean embassy, and they will put an official stamp on the photocopy for about US $2.50. Mail the certified photocopy to the school, NOT your original. They can keep that but you still have your original. It's a lot less hassle than getting a dupicate copy from your university. I actually requested my last school to return my certified phohtocopy so I could use it for the next job.

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