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Eryn · Fri 17-Feb-06, 11:21 PM

While what you say has some valid points Hypiereon I think you may have gone somewhat off topic to your own personal issues. A black mark is just that indeed but if you are willing to go out there and give another country a go you will inevitably come up against differing ideas of work ethics and appropriate work environments, particularly when the position entails working within the culture rather than beside it. Travelling with any company is a risk and certainly this is a position that should never under any circumstances be taken lightly, that is the entire reason these forums have been designed, particularly for those who are not fortunate enough to have someone they know to recommend a position. This can be said for any position discussed and advertised and is not spoken on behalf of the school in question but as a traveller who has and will continue to enter multiple countries as an educator without prior advise by known parties or accompaniment by others. This information is a tool for people to make informed decision and for those who choose to enter positions to open their eyes to both the positive and the negative aspects of the jobs and the cultures involved. It also the experiences and opinions of individuals and should be regarded as such and not as law.

As a final note back as an employee of the school the thread was originally based on the school pays for tickets up front to China and provides return flights at the completion of the contract, I'm not sure if that was what you were driving at with the comment on reimbursement of travel expenses but teachers pay for no part of the travel on their own. Also travel time within China is specified within the contract along with the estimated travel times (which are generously allotted I assure you) and rates of compensation along with the overtime rates of payment
I sincerely hope that you have found a more suitable position for you after your apparently alarming experiences and I do hope they haven't scarred you from taking a risk and continuing to experience other culture in their authentic environment.

Fri 17-Feb-06, 11:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Eryn ESL Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Posts: 2	re:You've been warned While what you say has some valid points Hypiereon I think you may have gone somewhat off topic to your own personal issues. A black mark is just that indeed but if you are willing to go out there and give another country a go you will inevitably come up against differing ideas of work ethics and appropriate work environments, particularly when the position entails working within the culture rather than beside it. Travelling with any company is a risk and certainly this is a position that should never under any circumstances be taken lightly, that is the entire reason these forums have been designed, particularly for those who are not fortunate enough to have someone they know to recommend a position. This can be said for any position discussed and advertised and is not spoken on behalf of the school in question but as a traveller who has and will continue to enter multiple countries as an educator without prior advise by known parties or accompaniment by others. This information is a tool for people to make informed decision and for those who choose to enter positions to open their eyes to both the positive and the negative aspects of the jobs and the cultures involved. It also the experiences and opinions of individuals and should be regarded as such and not as law. As a final note back as an employee of the school the thread was originally based on the school pays for tickets up front to China and provides return flights at the completion of the contract, I'm not sure if that was what you were driving at with the comment on reimbursement of travel expenses but teachers pay for no part of the travel on their own. Also travel time within China is specified within the contract along with the estimated travel times (which are generously allotted I assure you) and rates of compensation along with the overtime rates of payment I sincerely hope that you have found a more suitable position for you after your apparently alarming experiences and I do hope they haven't scarred you from taking a risk and continuing to experience other culture in their authentic environment.